US presidential election 2024

[Catbert]

"With the 2024 presidential election just around the corner, the stage is set for a highly contested battle between Donald Trump

and Kamala Harris.



What are your thoughts on the candidates' policies, track records, and leadership styles? Which issues do you think will be most important in deciding the outcome of the election? How do you think the candidates' positions on [key issues, e.g. economy, healthcare, foreign policy] will impact the country?

Share your opinions, analysis, and insights on the candidates and the key issues that will shape the election. Do you think [Candidate A] or [Candidate B] is better equipped to lead the country forward? Why or why not?

Some potential discussion topics to get us started:

The economy: How do the candidates' economic plans differ, and which one do you think is more likely to succeed?

Healthcare: What are the candidates' positions on healthcare reform, and how will they impact access to care?

Foreign policy: How do the candidates' views on international relations and national security differ, and what implications might this have for global stability?

Social justice: How do the candidates' positions on issues like racial justice, immigration, and climate change align with your values?

Let's discuss! Share your thoughts, ask questions, and engage with others in a respectful and constructive dialogue. Let's work together to stay informed and make our voices heard in this critical election."

Thread Rules:

Be respectful and civil in your posts, even when disagreeing with others.
Stay on topic and avoid personal attacks or inflammatory language.
Use credible sources to support your arguments and fact-check information before sharing.
Keep the discussion focused on the candidates and the issues, rather than making personal attacks or engaging in partisan bickering.
Let's keep the conversation going!

 

[mtil]

still voting joe

 

[Gargamel]

Both candidates are worthless dumb fucking shitbags. Harris lied cheated and stole here way up the ladder and Trump is so stupid he literally bankrupted a casino.

Neither candidate gives a flying fuck about the American people. You can't even pretend that one of them does like you could with Obama and before.

 

[Smigger]

Im voting for Trump for a variety of reasons, but these are my main ones.

1 gun rights
2 the economy
3 foreign policy
4 the border
5 healthcare

and just about every policy I align with Trump besides tariffs harris is a nightmare.

 

[Catbert]

still voting joe

Any particular reason why?

Both candidates are worthless dumb fucking shitbags. Harris lied cheated and stole here way up the ladder and

The. Who would you to see run instead?

Trump is so stupid he literally bankrupted a casino.

That tells you he's great at achieving the near impossible.

Neither candidate gives a flying fuck about the American people. You can't even pretend that one of them does like you could with Obama and before.

Some one's grumpy just because they want to replace you with 6 million Mexicans doesn't mean they hate you.

Im voting for Trump for a variety of reasons, but these are my main ones.

1 gun rights

Agreed

2 the economy

Sucks

3 foreign policy

What policy?

4 the border

Is completely unsecured

5 healthcare

Is bankrupting Americans unless you're an illegal immigrant.

and just about every policy I align with Trump besides tariffs harris is a nightmare.

Hey now be nice she hasn't done anything for nearly 3 years except cackle and loom over a mostly dead corpse. Give her a chance now.

 

[Gargamel]

Im voting for Trump for a variety of reasons, but these are my main ones.

1 gun rights
2 the economy
3 foreign policy
4 the border
5 healthcare

and just about every policy I align with Trump besides tariffs harris is a nightmare.

1 Doesn't give a fuck about gun rights, only uses it as a plank in his platform to get votes.
2 More tax cuts for the rich and maybe a pretend tax cut for the everyman but probably not because this would be his last term so why bother.
3 He sure loves them commies.
4 The same exact policy we have under biden and also trump's first term.
5 Big Pharma will get some kind of break, but Obamacare will remain in force because southern Republicans are too chickenshit to take gibs away from their voter base.

 

[Catbert]

1 Doesn't give a fuck about gun rights, only uses it as a plank in his platform to get votes.

Citation*

2 More tax cuts for the rich and maybe a pretend tax cut for the everyman but probably not because this would be his last term so why bother.
3 He sure loves them commies.

Citation*

4 The same exact policy we have under biden and also trump's first term.

And that was like and such as ?

5 Big Pharma will get some kind of break, but Obamacare will remain in force because southern Republicans are too chickenshit to take gibs away from their voter base.

 

[Gargamel]

Citation*

Your rules don't apply to me.

 

[Smigger]

What policy?

ending aid to Ukraine withdrawing troops

Is completely unsecured

trump will fix it

Hey now be nice she hasn't done anything for nearly 3 years except cackle and loom over a mostly dead corpse. Give her a chance now.

trust the plan

1 Doesn't give a fuck about gun rights, only uses it as a plank in his platform to get votes.

Despite his flaws, he's a thousand times better than Harris, who wants to ban ARs.

2 More tax cuts for the rich and maybe a pretend tax cut for the everyman but probably not because this would be his last term so why bother.

Taxcuts benefit everyone on top of cutting regulation.

3 He sure loves them commies.

He loves peace mostly.

4 The same exact policy we have under biden and also trump's first term.

Trump is way tougher on the border; he would reinstate remain in Mexico.

5 Big Pharma will get some kind of break, but Obamacare will remain in force because southern Republicans are too chickenshit to take gibs away from their voter base.

Obviously he's not going to repeal Obamacare, but at least he won't try to nationalize all private healthcare.

 

[Catbert]

ending aid to Ukraine withdrawing troops

This is probably the most important international policy at the moment.

trump will fix it

Can it be fixed though? There's a lot of illegals now the border can be locked down. But what do we do about all the newly minted Democratic voters.

trust the plan

Only if they're snacks.

Despite his flaws, he's a thousand times better than Harris, who wants to ban ARs.

Taxcuts benefit everyone on top of cutting regulation.

He loves peace mostly.

Trump is way tougher on the border; he would reinstate remain in Mexico.

Obviously he's not going to repeal Obamacare, but at least he won't try to nationalize all private healthcare.

I think his energy policies really good and something that they should be focusing on to help lower costs for basic day-to-day goods

 

[Gargamel]

Despite his flaws, he's a thousand times better than Harris, who wants to ban ARs.

Sounds like you're actually voting against Harris because she wants to ban guns. I can't blame you though.

Taxcuts benefit everyone on top of cutting regulation.

No, they don't, because the rich just keep the extra money in their pockets.

Often the regulations that get cut by Republicans are the ones that protect us from the dangers of reckless behavior on the part of investors, banks, and the rich. They want to make money at any cost and do not care if they trigger yet another recession, and neither does the Republican party. They know they're getting bailed out anyway, and that only the everyman will be harmed significantly, so they see no problem with that.

Meanwhile, the regulations that don't deserve to exist, such as the ones that enable the California Air Resources Board to regulate vehicle emissions to a higher standard than those mandated by the Federal government, never get the slightest hint of attention from the Republicans.

He loves peace mostly.

More like he lacks interest and motivation to wage a war like Bush did and would rather take bribes and kickbacks from the Slavs and chinks, because personal gain is his modus operandi and money is something he's in dire need of.

Trump is way tougher on the border; he would reinstate remain in Mexico.

Doesn't Biden already make the spics wait at the border, until the government's shitty cell phone app gives them the all clear?

What is Trump going to do about all the ones who cut holes in his impenetrable border wall? Illegal crossings are a way bigger problem than the ones getting in by claiming asylum at the border crossing.

Also, why don't any of these candidates do the obvious thing and create a conduit from the Mexican border to the Canadian border? Canada's laws are more favorable to illegal aliens so if we can get them up there, we can rid ourselves of the problem.

Obviously he's not going to repeal Obamacare, but at least he won't try to nationalize all private healthcare.

Actually it would be good if healthcare was nationalized. The only people benefiting from that shit are the shareholders and executives of the healthcare industry.

 

[Catbert]

Sounds like you're actually voting against Harris because she wants to ban guns. I can't blame you though.

No, they don't, because the rich just keep the extra money in their pockets.

Often the regulations that get cut by Republicans are the ones that protect us from the dangers of reckless behavior on the part of investors, banks, and the rich. They want to make money at any cost and do not care if they trigger yet another recession, and neither does the Republican party. They know they're getting bailed out anyway, and that only the everyman will be harmed significantly, so they see no problem with that.

Meanwhile, the regulations that don't deserve to exist, such as the ones that enable the California Air Resources Board to regulate vehicle emissions to a higher standard than those mandated by the Federal government, never get the slightest hint of attention from the Republicans.

More like he lacks interest and motivation to wage a war like Bush did and would rather take bribes and kickbacks from the Slavs and chinks, because personal gain is his modus operandi and money is something he's in dire need of.

Doesn't Biden already make the spics wait at the border, until the government's shitty cell phone app gives them the all clear?

No complete fast track

What is Trump going to do about all the ones who cut holes in his impenetrable border wall? Illegal crossings are a way bigger problem than the ones getting in by claiming asylum at the border crossing.

Yeah that's my point I don't really know how they're going to solve this without declaring a border war and using the military.

Also, why don't any of these candidates do the obvious thing and create a conduit from the Mexican border to the Canadian border?

That would be ridiculously expensive and require Canada to import something other than the Chinese and the Indians.

Canada's laws are more favorable to illegal aliens so if we can get them up there, we can id ourselves of the problem.

Certain illegal immigrants*

Actually it would be good if healthcare was nationalized. The only people benefiting from that shit are the shareholders and executives of the healthcare industry.

No because then you end up bankrupt like Canada.

 

[Gargamel]

No because then you end up bankrupt like Canada.

Healthcare isn't what bankrupted Canada.

Take all the massive profits out of healthcare and you might actually reduce the cost of it.

It's shocking just how many people are going to bat for Jews, and yet many of those same people hold anti-Semitic views.

 

[Smigger]

Can it be fixed though? There's a lot of illegals now the border can be locked down. But what do we do about all the newly minted Democratic voters.

We can try expelling them like Texas is doing, but even if Trump barely does anything on the border, it's way better than Harris open borders policy.

I think his energy policies really good and something that they should be focusing on to help lower costs for basic day-to-day goods

this too

Sounds like you're actually voting against Harris because she wants to ban guns. I can't blame you though.

Pretty much if there was a better conservative running, I would vote for them, but the libertarian nominee sucks this year.

Often the regulations that get cut by Republicans are the ones that protect us from the dangers of reckless behavior on the part of investors, banks, and the rich. They want to make money at any cost and do not care if they trigger yet another recession, and neither does the Republican party. They know they're getting bailed out anyway, and that only the everyman will be harmed significantly, so they see no problem with that.

Sadly, the Republicans often fail to oppose bailouts and cut all regulations, but fewer regulations mean more competition.

Meanwhile, the regulations that don't deserve to exist, such as the ones that enable the California Air Resources Board to regulate vehicle emissions to a higher standard than those mandated by the Federal government, never get the slightest hint of attention from the Republicans.

Republicans talk about California's regulations, but that's their state; we don't get to boss them around.

More like he lacks interest and motivation to wage a war like Bush did and would rather take bribes and kickbacks from the Slavs and chinks, because personal gain is his modus operandi and money is something he's in dire need of.

I think he lacks interest in starting wars. I'm not sure if they pay him off, but he is aiming for a mostly non-interventionist policy.

Doesn't Biden already make the spics wait at the border, until the government's shitty cell phone app gives them the all clear?

That's the thing they get the all clear; Trump would not allow that.

What is Trump going to do about all the ones who cut holes in his impenetrable border wall? Illegal crossings are a way bigger problem than the ones getting in by claiming asylum at the border crossing.

Also, why don't any of these candidates do the obvious thing and create a conduit from the Mexican border to the Canadian border? Canada's laws are more favorable to illegal aliens so if we can get them up there, we can rid ourselves of the problem.

The border wall is not enough. I agree we need to cut welfare as well, but once again, Trump is way better.

Actually it would be good if healthcare was nationalized. The only people benefiting from that shit are the shareholders and executives of the healthcare industry.

I strongly disagree. I can only see it ending in disaster, especially if we enroll illegal immigrants like Harris wants.

 

[Catbert]

We can try expelling them like Texas is doing, but even if Trump barely does anything on the border, it's way better than Harris open borders policy.

At least its getting the dialogue and action started. And agreed between Democrats just letting them in and or trump at least addressing it I'll take the later.

this too

Pretty much if there was a better conservative running, I would vote for them, but the libertarian nominee sucks this year.

Sadly, the Republicans often fail to oppose bailouts and cut all regulations, but fewer regulations mean more competition.

Republicans need the local small town votes to help ease into the big city votes. Local elections is where they lose most

Republicans talk about California's regulations, but that's their state; we don't get to boss them around.

I think he lacks interest in starting wars. I'm not sure if they pay him off, but he is aiming for a mostly non-interventionist policy.

That's the thing they get the all clear; Trump would not allow that.

The border wall is not enough. I agree we need to cut welfare as well, but once again, Trump is way better.

Especially cut off those programs where they're talking about giving them $100,000 unsecured loans for first time illegal migrant home buyers

 

[Catbert]

Healthcare isn't what bankrupted Canada.
Take all the massive profits out of healthcare and you might actually reduce the cost of it.

Naw I'm good I'll just pay for it instead of waiting

It's shocking just how many people are going to bat for Jews, and yet many of those same people hold anti-Semitic views.

Didn't take you long did it*

 

[Gargamel]

Republicans talk about California's regulations, but that's their state; we don't get to boss them around.

States aren't supposed to have the right to enact stricter vehicle emissions standards. California has a waiver from the EPA to allow them to do just that. No other state has one.

California had a unique smog problem in the 70s, worse than other places due to depleted ozone and geography, which is how they justified the waiver. With catalytic converters being standard equipment on cars for decades, this is no longer the case.

I think he lacks interest in starting wars. I'm not sure if they pay him off, but he is aiming for a mostly non-interventionist policy.

He's definitely not interested in starting wars. He'd rather take kickbacks for things our government provide to foreign countries, such as Ukraine. He's not going to end support for Ukraine, he's just going to try to insert himself into the deal and take his cut, personally.

He will likely try the same with Israel. That ought to go over well.

That's the thing they get the all clear; Trump would not allow that.

Sure hope so, but I kinda doubt he can make it happen.

It's realistically going to take an act of Congress to actually fix the problem. Our current laws allow entry. Neither Trump nor Biden could really get around this without court interference. The President could encourage Congress to get something pushed through like Obama did for Obamacare. Trump didn't bother in his first term and Biden also can't be bothered. The illegal alien problem is a dog and pony show for these Presidential candidates, meanwhile countless business owners directly benefit from illegal labor every day. There is no incentive to actually fix the problem, only incentive to pretend to fix the problem.

Illegal crossings are a bigger problem, and they also directly benefit business entities who choose to employ illegal aliens. The wall did jack fucking shit, and we (not Mexico) willl be paying for it for a long time to come. I was surprised when I heard Biden was continuing to build the wall, the very wall that illegals cut holes in with battery power tools.

I strongly disagree. I can only see it ending in disaster, especially if we enroll illegal immigrants like Harris wants.

It must be citizens-only, otherwise it will fall apart very quickly.

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Naw I'm good I'll just pay for it instead of waiting

They can leave the profits for the medical institutions and we won't have that problem. Also, that screenshot doesn't talk about Canada being bankrupt, it talks about a lack of doctors and people inappropriately using the ER for non-emergencies.

Didn't take you long did it*

My people have perfected the art of tricking people who hate them into supporting them and making them ever richer.

 

[Catbert]

States aren't supposed to have the right to enact stricter vehicle emissions standards. California has a waiver from the EPA to allow them to do just that. No other state has one.

California had a unique smog problem in the 70s, worse than other places due to depleted ozone and geography, which is how they justified the waiver. With catalytic converters being standard equipment on cars for decades, this is no longer the case.

He's definitely not interested in starting wars. He'd rather take kickbacks for things our government provide to foreign countries, such as Ukraine. He's not going to end support for Ukraine, he's just going to try to insert himself into the deal and take his cut, personally.

He will likely try the same with Israel. That ought to go over well.

Sure hope so, but I kinda doubt he can make it happen.

It's realistically going to take an act of Congress to actually fix the problem. Our current laws allow entry. Neither Trump nor Biden could really get around this without court interference. The President could encourage Congress to get something pushed through like Obama did for Obamacare. Trump didn't bother in his first term and Biden also can't be bothered. The illegal alien problem is a dog and pony show for these Presidential candidates, meanwhile countless business owners directly benefit from illegal labor every day. There is no incentive to actually fix the problem, only incentive to pretend to fix the problem.

Illegal crossings are a bigger problem, and they also directly benefit business entities who choose to employ illegal aliens. The wall did jack fucking shit, and we (not Mexico) willl be paying for it for a long time to come. I was surprised when I heard Biden was continuing to build the wall, the very wall that illegals cut holes in with battery power tools.

It must be citizens-only, otherwise it will fall apart very quickly.

They can leave the profits for the medical institutions and we won't have that problem. Also, that screenshot doesn't talk about Canada being bankrupt, it talks about a lack of doctors and people inappropriately using the ER for non-emergencies.

The Bank of Canada is reportedly "functionally bankrupt" and losing money every day, according to one source. Additionally, bankruptcies are soaring in Canada, particularly among small businesses, due to debt taken on during the pandemic and a weakening economy. Furthermore, many Canadians are struggling financially, with over half of Canadians reporting that they are within $200 of financial insolvency.
https://gregmcleanmp.ca/the-bank-of-canada-is-bankrupt/

My people have perfected the art of tricking people who hate them into supporting them and making them ever richer.

Remember when I said poltards will jew post in every thread.
And you got really sensitive about it...

 

[Gargamel]

The Bank of Canada is reportedly "functionally bankrupt" and losing money every day, according to one source. Additionally, bankruptcies are soaring in Canada, particularly among small businesses, due to debt taken on during the pandemic and a weakening economy. Furthermore, many Canadians are struggling financially, with over half of Canadians reporting that they are within $200 of financial insolvency.
https://gregmcleanmp.ca/the-bank-of-canada-is-bankrupt/

Yes, Canada is bankrupt, but that doesn't mean national healthcare bankrupted them. You're trying to conflate two facts, that Canada is bankrupt and that Canada has national healthcare. You've not proven a link between Canada being bankrupt and Canada having national healthcare.

Canada has a number of problems, including but not limited to mass immigration (wealthy Canadians like cheap labor too), illegal immigration, a lot of imports and not so many exports, a drug epidemic that the government is "fighting" by handing out drugs for free on the taxpayer's dime, and being a huge land mass inhabited by a small population. All of these things cost the Canadian government money.

Remember when I said poltards will jew post in every thread.
And you got really sensitive about it...

Link.

 

[Catbert]

Yes, Canada is bankrupt, but that doesn't mean national healthcare bankrupted them. You're trying to conflate two facts, that Canada is bankrupt and that Canada has national healthcare. You've not proven a link between Canada being bankrupt and Canada having national healthcare.

Canada has a number of problems, including but not limited to mass immigration (wealthy Canadians like cheap labor too), illegal immigration, a lot of imports and not so many exports, a drug epidemic that the government is "fighting" by handing out drugs for free on the taxpayer's dime, and being a huge land mass inhabited by a small population. All of these things cost the Canadian government money.

All right fair enough but it still wouldn't work here

Link

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